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October 5th, 2008, 10:33 PM
#21
Senior Hostboard Member
I can hardly think of a driver less suited to an OB than a 604.
This OB thing is a recent fad though some of us old timers made them many years ago before we read "How to Build Loudspeaker Enclosures" and learned exactly why they always sounded lousy.
OBs are easy though and many people are skilled at making a virtue of a necessity.
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October 5th, 2008, 11:55 PM
#22
Inactive Member
Abe, thanks for the gracious invitation, I'd love to experience your system. I've been to California though, and since I didn't leave anything there I probably won't be returning anytime soon. Far too crowded and busy for this laid-back hillbilly.
I couldn't hear any real bass from your videos, though I did detect the upper harmonics from a standup. Good taste in music! In all fairness, I listened via the 1" speakers in my laptop...
Of course, an individual's preferences are both subjective and semantic. If you're happy, I'm happy. It seemed like David was a little less than happy though, so I offered an explanation of why that might be.
FWIW, even JE labs' own OB web page has the following to say in not-so-fine print;
"Of course one cannot expect ultimate bass extension with an open baffle..."
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October 6th, 2008, 03:08 PM
#23
Senior Hostboard Member
Originally posted by bfish:
Abe, thanks for the gracious invitation, I'd love to experience your system. I've been to California though, and since I didn't leave anything there I probably won't be returning anytime soon. Far too crowded and busy for this laid-back hillbilly.
I couldn't hear any real bass from your videos, though I did detect the upper harmonics from a standup. Good taste in music! In all fairness, I listened via the 1" speakers in my laptop...
Of course, an individual's preferences are both subjective and semantic. If you're happy, I'm happy. It seemed like David was a little less than happy though, so I offered an explanation of why that might be.
FWIW, even JE labs' own OB web page has the following to say in not-so-fine print;
"Of course one cannot expect ultimate bass extension with an open baffle..."
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, of course. So it must be that my taste is less demanding regarding bass response.
FWIW, I am not challenging anybody. I am just relating my experience on how I perceive the response of the OB in my room. I did listen to two sytems with the 620 cabs, and I have the 612C myself. All I can say is, they never "move" me to plan on making the cabinets.
As always, my experiences only and never meant to intrigue anyone.
Cheers and regards,
Abe
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October 6th, 2008, 03:12 PM
#24
Senior Hostboard Member
I meant to add that my brother (a Medical Doctor) is into woodworking as a hobby. He got his own private wood working shop and offered me to build the 620 cabs for free. Maybe I should take his offer and see for myself how the 604's will sound with my current equipment.
regards,
Abe
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October 6th, 2008, 03:23 PM
#25
Senior Hostboard Member
ohh....need own woodshop...must have...mmm
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October 6th, 2008, 07:24 PM
#26
Senior Hostboard Member
Abe,
Thatis a geat sounding and looking system. Thanks for sharing with us.
Also thanks for emailing me the xover info.
Too bad you are not near the South East, so I could listen to these speakers in person, but i really lke what I hear so far, even with the compression of youtube.
Again, thanks for sharing.
-chris
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October 8th, 2008, 06:43 AM
#27
Senior Hostboard Member
Hello Chris,
We are OT already, I hope David can forgive us, but thanks and you are welcome!
regards,
Abe
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October 8th, 2008, 07:37 AM
#28
Senior Hostboard Member
OT? My life is OT!
The Cary pre is back, and Goldfrapp is very appreciative. All is forgiven. Except for that damned rodent.
Man, these GPAs can leave the ears in a state of...rock n roll grace.
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October 11th, 2008, 01:00 AM
#29
Inactive Member
I posted my experience with my JE Labs OB at AudioCircle. We are getting together to listen again tomorrow.
This is a cut and paste:
All,
On Saturday evening I took my speakers over to a friends house and three of us all listened to them for about 3 hours. The system included a VPI TNT, VPI JMW tonearm, Koetsu RSP, Shelter 501 Mono (my first mono experience was a great one), Quad pre, Quad 15w monoblocks, EAR 834P modified phono stage + my speakers. It was absolutely the most dynamic, and simultaneously one of the most musical and amazing stereo systems I have ever heard. I was a little reserved but the other two just couldn't stop gushing about the sound. Quotes from the event by my friends who normally hear Quad 989's in the same system, "It's one of the best if not THE BEST sounds ever! Most natural, most musical, and the air!"
There is also a slight hardness in the upper midrange (that I attribute to the crossover...perhaps it will go away after 300 hours as I think I have about 200 now) that almost went away in my friend's system but is much more pronounced in my cheaper system. I plan on listening to them in a few more of my friends systems before the crossover is redone and am weighing building a nice looking OB and keeping them in it after what I heard on Saturday. I am still in awe of what I experienced. Unfortunately it means to reorienting of my room 90 degrees, and new furniture...$$$. So to anyone interested in these drivers I honestly feel that there are few better deals if you want world class sound for such a small investment.
Best,
Chris
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